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Unfortunately, that one was a disaster. they estimated at that time 3-4 million people were in the country illegally and a quarter of a million of them would be eligal for amnesty. at the end of the day, 3 million people got amnesty. many of them through fraud. it just encouraged more people within the space of 20 years we have somewhere between 11 and 20 million people in the country illegally. granting amnesty is the wrong way to go about it. first you secure the borders. there will be very few of them if you crack down on employers. without jobs or without subsidizing welfare and other thin...

That we have a lot of -- >> it would take months. >> it would take months. >> do the individuals that are here. >> it would take months. >> go by quickly. >> bernard is right, we need a comprehensive solution. not just one thing. >> it's the one thing you can do. >> you have to understand that such an emotional issue and i think that's why there's such a response in arizona. you're talking about families and talking really about generations. >> right. but jay, when i was in the reagan administration, that was the plan. ok, you're going to seal the border and then grant amnesty to to who was he...

Four-month extension of nuclear talks with iran, how responsible is president obama for the crises overseas? our sunday panel weighs in. then the surge of immigrant children across the border. republicans blame the president. >> the way you help the kids is you eliminate the magnet, which is president obama's amnesty. >> we'll talk with texas senator ted cruz who has his own plan to address the crisis. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. it's been an extraordinary week on the world stage. evidence mounts that pro-russian rebels shot down that pass...

Israel's invasion of gaza, and a four-month extension of nuclear talks with iran, how responsible is president obama for the crises overseas? our sunday panel weighs in. then, the surge of immigrant children across the border. republicans blame the president. >> the way you help the kids is you eliminate the magnet, which is president obama's amnesty. >> we'll talk with texas senator ted cruz who has his own plan to address the crisis. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. it's been an extraordinary week on the world stage. evidence mounts that pro-...

>> greta: it's more than arizona? >> yes. >> greta: thank you very much. i know the rest of you goring to do a study coming out soon. we'll be looking for that as well. thank you very much. arizona state senator pierce joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: after listening to our last guest and listening to the numbers you've never been a man of few words. so i'm going to assume you have a thought about it? >> well, those numbers are conservative. it's like estimates put out in 86 granting amnesty. 800,000 was the max. it was over three million. those are very conservat...