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People would argue thoughtful discussion. do you think these numbers could change any of that? >> the numbers themselves won't. but politics will. i mean, political movement will. and i don't mean what we do at the ballot box although that is important. but i talked with chris murphy from connecticut who of course has a lot to say about this because sandy hook happened in his district. and he pointed out to me that it is a real mistake for us in the media or anybody else to get too pessimistic about this, that you have -- you have all kinds of grass roots activity that is out there that would ...

Demonizing top earners or alienating top democrats. >> i don't demonize anybody, but i try to state the facts, the facts are that corporate greed is destroying our economy and is doing harm to the working families of this country. and i think that somebody who is trying to reform the democratic party, this coming sunday, we're going to have 30 rallies all over this country in opposition to the republican effort to try to end the affordable care act. we're trying to create grass roots activity within the democratic party. it's not a question of demonizing, but a question of creating public poli...

Harm. this coming sunday, we're going to have 30 rallies in opposition to the republican effort to try to end the affordable care act, try to create grass roots activity within the democratic party, it's not a question of demonizing. it's a question of creating public policies, tax policies. do you think it makes sense? do you think it makes sense that we give very, very large tax breaks to billionaires? and then cut back on education or health care? does that make sense to you? >> no. >> it doesn't make sense to me. it doesn't make sense to the vast majority of the american people. i'm not de...

Certain employees to carry firearms. you were a victim in the 2007 virginia tech shooting, so you know about guns in school very well. would that deter, duo you think someone that there may be somebody else in that school who is armed? >> i don't think so. there have been instances were there have been shootings at schools were there have been law officers before. the law was worse, not only was it k through 12, it also would have forced all universities in the state of georgia to allow concealed carry as well as also forcing the churches in the state to allow people to carry. before they were...

This is a generational issue. and for me and for the folks who i work with, we thought it was important to get involved with and it's an important project, and today was a critically important day for that in. it is an important project, today was a critically important day for that fight. >> well, specifically on keystone, the president tied his upcoming decision on keystone to what the president had to say about emissions. what did it mean in practical terms? what did you understand him to say? >> well, the reason it changed, he changed the terms of the debate, it is not about what the candi...