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Nationally and potentially in the early states. you need you know x number of dollars raised from y number of donors across the country. and thereby being you can't get just one big check from a super pac donor and say that's the extra support that brought you into the debate. you can actually develop a grassroots network. it's hard to collect a $2,700 check. it's easy to -- it's relatively easy to collect $2,700 checks. a lot harder to collect a heck of a lot of $1 00 checks. that's sort of the test of viability. if you can't get those $1 00 checks how do you collect the $500 checks you need ...

Tennessee this week, you know, we had a grassroots network of moms help defeat nra's big legislative agenda, which was open carry and guns in recreational parks. that was not michael bloomberg doing that in nashville. that was concerned and upset moms and dads and people across the state. that's the reality we're seeing. we continue that, we continue to build the grassroots, that's ultimately how we're going to get the change we need. >> collin points to tennessee, that's one red state. can you point to any other parts of red america, nonpurple states, you have in florida the warning shot bill...

Freedom army and koch brothers that fueled a lot of that. you might have had a more pure tea party which would have focused on why are ceos over paid and undertaxed. >> howard fineman actually writes about this in a place called the "huffington post." i've never been there myself but i've heard about this website. he writes, heritage action one of the major groups funded by small donors, corporate allies and wealthy individuals has become a powerhouse in a new generation of conservative groups. it operates on a model by evangelical activist producing inflammatory score cards that rate lawmaker...

Last one is how it's become a risk to them to hold this in their portfolio. >> they manufacturer something like 31% of semiautomatics. >> they manufacturered the gun that was used. i think it's too late -- >> katrina, i want to read an excerpt. sam stein and paul bloomenthal have an interesting read in the huffington post talking about the strength of the nra which we all anecdotally agree is financial power. sam and paul make the point that it's actually their grassroots network, and i'll read an excerpt. the group's great clout lies in the sheer number of people it can mobilize. the nra boas...

We've heard confidence out of the romney camp. they've been saying they're sure he's going to win and win big. they're not doing anything to dampen those expectations. if they did, people would laugh. there's no question he has to win michigan. but it's still up in the air. a lot of people have already voted. there's a lot of absentee ballots that have been returned in michigan. those ballots were coming in when the polls were telling us something different. >> if rick santorum had mitt romney's machine, had mitt romney's money, had mitt romney's ground game, would rick santorum be in much bet...