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And also the victims' families of those who overdosed on fentanyl and heroin. that needs to be a grassroots push from the ground up for those senators in washington who now home relaxing when they should be in washington working like the president so they feel from their base what matters and what counts. >> we should know right now. we should have every senator make a yes or no vote on the wall. think about the 60,000 people that died as a result of overdoses. that's more than all the people who died wearing the u.s. uniform in vietnam. we should have all the pressure put on these senators in...

Character in the history of american presidents but i think it's important to note, too, there's a correlation between the fact he hat moved any significant legislation and the fact his core base of supporters is basically his only base of support, right? one of the things we have seen that has held true over the course of the first 14ur00 days his presidency, if you're not a popular president, can't rally people to your cause, congress isn't going to rally to your cause and leave their base behind. infighting among the republicans which is what stymied the health care overhaul bill. it's not ...

A lot of folks have already made up their minds about these candidates. we'll see something of a reset going forward with the different conventions. it's a battle to 3, to 5 to maybe 10% of the electorate that the still isn't quite sure. they're trying to rev up their individual bases and using all of these issues that people in some ways have gone the over in some ways and are thinking about their pocketbooks. they have turned to these issues because it really gets people angry and angry people are more likely to show up at the polls and make phone calls and knock on doors and get out there a...

The president can't single handedly pen an immigration bill and sign it. it takes both houses of the legislature to do that. and so we need to build support. i think the president is going to a strategy that is one way to do it and that's to talk to businesses and outside groups to make the case to their legislators that we need to get moving on this. and if he's successful in igniting the sort of grassroots push, to motivate those who have been withholding their votes on immigration reform, or those who have been completely opposed to immigration reform, i think that is a strategy for getting...