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Home make time. they refused to make mcnally available and refused to tell mcnally about the request. he went to painstaking detail to defend his independence and then obviously defend the fact and what came up was the right conclusion. >> i want to come back to reaction in boston. when you hear about losing -- fines and losing draft picks, tom brady is not playing until oddly enough the colts game next fall which is a fun storyline in and of itself, but knowing that people referencing ray race and -- ray rice, and this was before the world saw him knocking out his then-fiancee in the elevator...

Judge. so it will be interesting here. it's much more emotional when they talk directly to the person. >> absolutely. aaron hernandez was a big sports star with everything going for him. he was a star player on the new england patriots. you saw the patriots owner take the stand, robert kraft. what's the reaction from the world of football? >> personally as a former player in the league this hurts. there's a lot that has been going on recently with some of the ray race incident and other similar cases that have given former players a bad name so this is the deepest cut of all. i have spoken to ...

The trap is at one level basically saying, i don't you. you are stuck in dynamics of an abusive relationship. but that is condescending like who am i to say that to janay rice. she's an adult human being with agency over her human life. what do you interpret what she is saying? >> she's expert of her life. she's going to disclose what she wants to disclose. whether that's because that's the truth or for safety reasons, no one knows. that really is her story that she will only know the truth of ever. her and ray race. from an advocate perspentive, we'd always talk with janay and see what she wa...

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