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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:32:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:32:00

I know your husband is training to be a police officer. >> yes. while he was in the police academy he had a gun in the house for a full year. >> reporter: did your kids know where the gun was? >> no. >> reporter: she's sure nine-year-old nevada will know exactly what to do. she's sort of the rule follower kind of kid? >> absolutely. >> reporter: but she's not so sure about 7-year-old luke. >> he's the middle child. he's very outgoing. he's kind of the ham of the family. >> reporter: before we test luke and nevada we send them to a gun safety class with our expert, dr. miltenberger. the kids ca...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:56:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:56:00

Oliver lifts up the gun. the barrel pointing at his friend's head. >> oh my gosh. yeah, he just -- >> oh my gosh. >> we laugh because we know it's a situation where we're testing them, but if that were real -- >> yeah. >> hard to see that? >> it was disappointing. those training sessions were so rent. >> reporter: their dads go to speak with their sons. >> what happened when you saw that g? >> i touched it. >> why? >> i wanted to. >> i love you. i'm glad you're safe. if this was a real gun, it could've been incredibly dangerous, and incredibly scary. okay? >> do you realize what that gun can d...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:58:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:58:00

First test, right on the spot, dr. ray gave them the behavioral skills training. >> stop. run away. it's a real gun, okay? >> reporter: and he had them role-play one more time. >> see that gun and show me exactly what you would do. >> reporter: now we're going to test them again at sean's house, the same place they had their last training. they might be on alert since the setting is familiar, but will that help them remember what to do? we've got hidden cameras rolling upstairs and their nervous moms downstairs. >> so you had a training again with dr. ray, and how did the boys do then? >> they...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:33:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:33:00

For luke and nevada it's been only three days since the training session. their mom's outside in the watchmobile. and if they go for it, how do you think you're gonna be feeling? >> scared. terrified probably. >> reporter: she told luke and nevada they were here to fill candy baskets to be donated to a local food bank. the baskets will be donated. >> now we're going to just filling out the eggs with as much candy as we want. >> reporter: but what they don't know is in a room down the hall. there's a table full of treats and a gun placed where they can't miss it. it's a prop gun that looks and ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:46:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180211:10:46:00

It's a little scary now. >> it's okay. >> we tell the boys they're not in trouble. they just need more training and they need the right kind of training. >> stop and don't touch it. turns out dr. ray is not surprised the boys failed. he used a training that is often taught in gun safety classes. you simply tell kids what to do. he used this talk-only method to illustrate what his research found, that type of training doesn't usually work. >> i expected they would probably touch the gun, perhaps play with it and maybe do something dangerous with it. >> reporter: based on his research published ...