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Of what you're talking about? >> so you have to slippery out who the hearings were directed towards ultimately. they were people like all of us and msnbc viewers and democratic party activists. the average voter who's going about making a living and not paying attention to anything until after labor day, discarded by inflation, they're not tuned in. you did not see much change in polls. but they had a great mobilizing effect on the democratic base, and when they were out there knocking on doors, making those calls, they had passion behind them, because they knew that democracy was at stake, an...

But they had a great mobilizing effect on the democratic base, and when they were out there knocking on doors, making those calls, they had passion behind them, because they knew that democracy was at stake, and that sense of mistake was high-end by the january six hearings. i think historians will say that they were very important in these election returns. >> that history is still being were in. jonathan alter, as always, thank you for taking the time to be with us. don't go anywhere, our election coverage continues after a quick break. e to unwind after a long week of telling people how lib...