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Joining me are the voices behind these disagreements. welcome to both of you. lynn, since you're the one that got up a little bit earlier and waited for me to come there out in l.a., just responding to mark's point, the increase in democratic turnout would have done very little to change much of the result in 2010. >> i'm certainly sympathetic to the point that mark is making and i think generally we both agree that both turnout and persuasion are important in any campaign. i think that the heart and soul of campaigns is persuasion but these turnout questions on the edges in some cases can mak...

>> in most race, the campaigns don't matter very much. although no one has done the experiment of i'm not going to run any campaign at do that. let's just put names on the ballot and see what happens. >> the campaigns matter less than we like to think they do, but in some cases they make all of the difference in the world. in heidi's case there's at least 12% of the people in the state of north dakota that voted for heidi on the same day at the same time and that's persuasion and split-ticket voting. we used to have more in this country, and we have a lot less, but the right candidate and the ...