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Another person's debt. no intent or anything like that. >> where is carl these days? i mean not carl, oscar? >> well, oscar, it would seem the general consensus he's nsta in uncle's house, affluent in pretoria. and checking in yesterday, but he actually apparently does check in with correctional services officials as part of the conditions by the prosecution and the defense agreed that it would be a section every monday and friday, and the bail conditions measured there in his ruling. so he did check in with officials and of holing up at his uncle's house in pretoria. >> adam, once again, than...

No intent or anything like that. >> where is carl these days? i mean not carl, oscar? >> well, oscar, it would seem the general consensus he's nsta in uncle's house, affluent in pretoria. and checking in yesterday, but he actually apparently does check in with correctional services officials as part of the conditions by the prosecution and the defense agreed that it would be a section every monday and friday, and the bail conditions measured there in his ruling. so he did check in with officials and of holing up at his uncle's house in pretoria. >> adam, once again, thank you. >> my pleasure. ...