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Harder to say no. they are manipulative in the way they speak to kids. -- jesse: it's a grooming process. you guys actually follow through. here is footage of law enforcement descending on this pervert. watch.
>> there's no thoughts on this is wrong or anything like that. he told me if they ever found out what we were doing, he and i would go to jail. for the rest of our lives. >> laura: dr. drew, why is this coming out now? i mean, it was -- he was on trial. he won, there were settlements. he's dead. what's going on here? >> we don't know what the allegations, we don't know if they are true or not but the documentary shows the grooming process, precisely how it happens. if you saw oprah's interview after the "leaving neverland" i can park, she about it. how this is really important for people to un...
>> there's no thoughts on this is wrong or anything like that. he told me if they ever found out what we were doing, he and i would go to jail. for the rest of our lives. >> laura: dr. drew, why is this coming out now? i mean, it was -- he was on trial. he won, there were settlements. he's dead. what's going on here? >> we don't know what the allegations, we don't know if they are true or not but the documentary shows the grooming process, precisely how it happens. if you saw oprah's interview after the "leaving neverland" i can park, she about it. how this is really important for people to un...
Change in terms of the legal system that is in place right now. if you could, what do you want people to know about what happened to you? i know it is so hard to talk about. what can you share with our viewers? >> i'd like them to know that i've lived, for the last 36 years, in a state of turmoil. i've been highly affected by the relationship, the grooming process of this. i don't want it to be left out that, yes, you know, the physical side of this is traumatic, and in many, many cases, survivors are still trying to get over that, but there's also an emotional and a psychological effect that ...
You watch it when you watch the cosby show when you are looking at it, it changes the way you look at something. i wonder if that's just a show that kind of just goes away. >> dana: said in my ear one station already cancelled it. i'm not wild, jesse, about taking jury verdicts as political statements because i think jury verdicts are based on evidence of a crime. but, it's sort of inevitable today that that's what happened. >> >> jesse: if you look at it in the con teskts me too movement. greg has talked about the stratosphere of guilt. very clear bill cosby is on the far end of stratosphere ...