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Because they are so tough and strong. you say they starved gymnasts to the point where they delayed their puberty? >> i mean, when you would go to the karolyi ranch, you wouldn't get very much food and quite honestly there is a lot of pressure coming from not only the national team staff but all of our coaches to be a small as you possibly could. and so that was a lot of pressure that we were dealing with so he woodland restrict our calorie intake and then we had somebody like larry nassar come in who would offer us snacks. and that was all part of his grooming process which i now know all abo...

Are there special beard grooming products you might recommend to the wannabe santas out there? suits are in. >> absolutely. most of my beard grouping is basically a lot of conditioning, conditioning products and some beard oil to keep your beard moist and conditions which helps it stay strong and continue to grow. it's grooming process that takes a year-long process. >> i have to ask you about the hottest toys and gifts this season for the parents that watch this show. what's hot this year in your elf workshop. >> this is what i tell people, joy. the hottest toyings on the market is whatever t...

Recruiting somebody is sort of like, would be the crown jewel. you got to be really careful because you're most likely tick them off and not get anything out of this particular individual. so find a way to hook them and feed them information, work with them in some way and apparently they did. >> it's almost like a grooming process? would that be a right characterization? >> having an asset there who done know that they are an asset. and you're playing also into greed, arrogance, ego. if you're being built up by the russian government as an expert in one of the most influential in foreign poli...

>> reporter: recruiters are very quick at picking out someone's vulnerabiliti vulnerabilities. >> if they know that through this grooming process, you have a sordid past, for example, you had a past with drugs or crime, they will engage in what they call a redemption narrative. >> reporter: but time and time again, experts told us radicalization does not necessarily lead to terrorism. >> people who hold radical ideas and express radical viewpoints often are not violent and the people who engage in violence often do not have any adherence to any radical ideology. >> reporter: bottom line -- des...

It was all sounding good so i fell for it. >> was there any kind of grooming process? like when this first started? something that just happened and he was just expecting you to learn on the way. >> when we got closer, when he felt like he got closer to me, he usually did it out of the back of the barber shop. he even had people with the post office, the mailman came in. the mailman came in and paid their money to him and came back there to me. >> this pimp was working out of a barber shop. >> exactly. >> where many folks go in all day long slapping hands and getting haircuts. >> lisa williams...