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The nrc to be able to withstand an earthquake that's appropriate to their location, more so maybe on the west coast with a higher seismic factor and less so on the earthquake, so they have all been licensed and designed to be able to withstand an earthquake and a tsunami that would be likely associated with that earthquake. >> so all the -- all the reactors on the west coast, are you saying that they could withstand an 8.9 magnitude earthquake? >> no, what i'm saying they could withstand the earthquake that would be appropriate for where they are located on the west coast, so, for instance, i ...

Building. and to be honest, what we know right now -- about the ground acceleration for the 8.9 earthquake that occurred in japan. our understanding is that it was .350 gs and the designs for the west coast plants exceed that by a significant amount. >> right now it looks like the folks in japan, the experts in japan, are really in unchartered territory. they are doing all sorts of things to prevent a meltdown and a nuclear crisis, including using sea water and other devices which aren't normal operating procedures. is that your understanding as well? >> well, they are certainly outside of the...