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>> but the president, obviously he was asked about the criticism that the u.s. has the krong strategy and not leading in this fight. he said very firmly that putting in a large amount of u.s. ground troops would be a mistake. >> i and i agree with him. i don't think we need a large number of forces, american forces on the ground, but we do need ground forces. they could be the kurds. they could be iraqi troops once they're better trained. but there has to be a ground component to this. we can't do this alone from the air. and what the french did last night in raqqa, what we're doing every day ...

If we don't change our strategy and come up with a ground component, there will be another 9/11. >> but as both of you gentlemen know, there's been great resistance to that more than american populous, just for a point of american parallel, senator mccain -- >> i don't know that at all. i don't buy that at all. >> you don't boy what, sir? >> i don't buy that the american people are reluctant to destroy isil. the american people are willing to send american forces to syria and iraq to protect the american homeland. when people say that, they don't know what they're talking about. the american p...

On earth where our allies can defeat isis. if we don't we're going to see more attacks. this is a failed strategy or a nonexistent strategy. it's got to change or it's going to be a matter of time before there's an attack on the united states of america. >> lindsey, you were just saying last wednesday with us in new hampshire basically warning of what was coming if we didn't intervene in syria. >> well, joe, there's a real opportunity here. i think paris made things more real than ever. i would encourage the president really to rally the world and marry up with the french. the arabs to a count...

Iraq. this with the coalition bombing from above. so a lot of military analysts suggested that unless there is a ground component that is willing to go into these areas, after air strikes forces some of this territory and forces fighters in that territory to vacate, there's going to be very little that air strikes can do. there is no reliable ground commission to go in. now the u.s. is relying on targeting senior members of the organization it try to disrupt it and degrade it, as we saw a few days ago, jihadi john, one of the major propaganda voices and in the past several months going after t...

I want to fight them in their backyard. shutting off refugees doesn't destroy isil. i have a plan to destroy isil. use the army's in the region which are large and professional, integrate our forces among those armys with the french and other nato nations, have an air campaign supplemented by a ground campaign of 80 to 100,000 ground forces of which will be about 10% and going on the ground and destroy these people before they hit us here at home and continue to do damage. there is no other way to defeat this enemy other than a ground component of which we will have to lead and be part of. >> ...