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Mykolaiv. >> is that a widening of their effort? >> it's too soon to know. we're talking about two strikes on two fields. it's not like we haven't seen any in the past. it's too soon to divine some sort of larger purple here or some strategy. the vast, vast majority of their combat power is being spent in the east. >> reporter: john, what kind of weapon was used to fire at those airfields? was it a missile that came in from belarus or what do you assess? >> we don't really have point of origin here or munitions. the russians admitted they use long-range precision guided weapons. we would agree...

Ground troops, conventional ground troops, a certain number on the ground in syria, beyond the very limited number of special operation forces working there now. what would that look like? what would that change? it's just an option. we're not saying the president is going to do this. what would that strategy be? >> the strategy has to be aligned against an objective. clearly it starts with a definition of what do we want to try to achieve with this additional application of force. that's what it's about, whether it's air power, ground power, increased intelligence support. the options could l...

Syrians could go to and protected by american air power and at least somebody's ground power, if not ours, some of the allies on the ground. there's some talk about american artillery or other kind of forces might be a part of that. every little step puts more americans in harm's way. something he is really felt very, you know, adamantly against. a lot of his foreign policy is anti-bush and anti-obama in terms of mucking around in other people's countries as he's put it, whether it be libya, iraq or elsewhere and a test how far he is willing to go and price he is going to pay. >> i remember bo...

In a strapg way isis is a state, not just a movement. we can punish them with air strikes. i said about a year and a half ago air strikes without ground power is a lot like casual sex it offers gratification without commitment. >> that was the former cia and nsa director general michael hayden earlier on morning joe. that was just the beginning. that was a wide ranging fascinating. >> you're scarred from that. >> that's what we call an unexpected analogy. >> i actually, little bit of a plagiarist stealing from the school of relationships. >> i'm very uncomfortable right now. >> this is the pot...

That u.s. missed russia coming into syria, didn't see it, didn't prepare for it. what do you think about it? >> well, if you go back a few months, it's certainly the case that i don't think our intelligence estimated that russia would go in with air power, with ground power. i think the expectation was more that they would continue and escalate the materiel support for the regime. i'm not sure if that's the decision that russia made or putin, he's the decision maker there. that may not be a decision that they made until fairly recently. again, the intelligence committee doesn't have a crystal ...