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Emphasize vetting as opposed to religion. so if the courts didn't initially rule on the constitutionality of it in that vein, what makes you so certain that they're going to rule in your favor down the line? >> two points, one is can they -- is this first executive order legally relevant? right, it's not the governing law anymore, but it's still relevant to show intent, absolutely. and the courts will look at the executive order to figure out what's the overall intent of what the government's doing? are they just trying to get around things by tweaking the document? and the second point i thin...

Out with a new order of some sort, what changes do you think he could make that would stand legal muster? >> i think the first thing is that there cannot be discrimination. there cannot be picking and choosing among countries based on religion. simply tweaking it is not enough. the stain of discrimination is there. the fact that he may remove certain things a the last minute, like he did before, doesn't eliminate the intent to discriminate against the muslim religion. i think it would have to be a complete revamping. at the core i don't want to get too technical about the specifics. but at the...