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Outsider and to come if and bring some change. >> and because he's so pastoral. working among the people. and literally in the trenches. that's going to make a difference. we heard people didn't want a theologyian insider. it was so interesting to me, and this is probably a sin against humility, i'm going to say it anyway. on february 25th i tweeted why isn't anyone talking about cardinal bergoglio? why isn't anyone talking about him this time? and people told me well, he's too old. eight years later, he's 76 now. they didn't vote for him last time, not this time. so when he walked out to that...

Time, not this time. so when he walked out to that balcony, i thought wow. this group saw something in this man that they think the church needs now and they said we're going to give him to you. >> he wasn't in discussion. earlier chris cuomo said on our air he talked to a retired cardinal and the retired cardinal's advice to chris was you need to focus on bergoglio. you're missing out that you haven't been discussing him. i don't know the source, which retired cardinal it was. he was certainly right on the money on this. erin, it was an extraordinary day, a day, i think everybody would was he...

Has not actually worked in the vatican. he's not part of the vatican bureaucracy which is significant. a, he could be elected and also what that might mean for his ability to come in and he is an outsider and to come if and bring some change. >> and because he's so pastoral. working among the people. and literally in the trenches. that's going to make a difference. we heard people didn't want a theologyian insider. it was so interesting to me, and this is probably a sin against humility, i'm going to say it anyway. on february 25th i tweeted why isn't anyone talking about cardinal bettrgoglio?...