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Chairman michael steele. can we get into grover-gate, michael? >> have at it. >> i'm trying to read these tea leaves. i know you're the guy to take me to the answer. tuesday grove r said it wouldn' violet his anti-tax pledge. here is the audio from that video? >> not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase. >> so it does not violet the pledge? >> we wouldn't hold it that way. it would be a very bad thing to do. it would raise taxes from where they are today. would it technically violate the pledge? no. >> seems straightforward, but then he backed away in the comments here on msn...

Been with the chief executive earlier today in your state is -- >> he agrees. >> this is a plan that is going to include both? >> absolutely. the president couldn't have been more clear that, if you're going to have a comprehensive plan, it must include enhanced revenues. we must make sure it's balanced and fair so we can create jobs. we have to invest in education, innovation, infrastructure. the president was clear, the democrats are clear about that. we want to make sure our recovery stays on track and we create the jobs necessary for our economy. by the way, that will also help our budget....