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They traded offers and continue to be $1.4 trillion apart. simply put, they will not resolve that in one meeting. democrats see this as a win-win, because in their view they can convince republicans to go along in some kind of agreement or look to moderate democrats and say we tried, this will not happen, and we have to go it alone. there has to be a process in the views of democratic leaders and white house to get to a place where democrats can say let s move this budget vehicle and bypass republicans and do it alone. they can t, as you pointed out, stephanie, growing antsiness in the democratic party about moving forward. they re very wary of getting stuck into another 2009 style that drags for months and months without an end game. the question is does this get them to a decision point on whether to go it alone? hans, i don t ever want to be pessimistic but even if they re inching closer on what s in the deal, they re miles apart on how ....