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When you look at this situation and now we see the charges being made against these guards about, you know, being not diligent in their job, falsifying records matches raises raises the question because this looks for such a high-profile case of a known predator, when it was there that everybody knew was in jail to have this actually happen, it really reeks of -- was this just simply a suicide with other things involved here? and i think this is what has to be gotten involved. the black out you spoke of, it was more than a black eye, it was a black mark and effectiveness of the bottom of this....

There's a terrible room in the shop which i'm sure you are familiar with. if the allegations were true or not, they asked my opinion on that subject. i gave it to them honestly. it was the opinion of the shop at that point when we were in there working. allegations that are coming out, of course, people are going to speak up now. because they can be heard. when they couldn't -- when they didn't have a voice and nobody would listen and code of silence kept them silent in the walls, their screams were still coming out but nobody was listening. >> this speaks to -- jeff speaks to what we have hea...