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Is that there always seem to be strong support at some level for securing the border, but not for the more technical parts including, you know, guest worker programs and be so forth. so how does this differ from that? you got both parties to support, where does the rest of it come from? >> well, i think the efforts on overall immigration reform are ongoing. but the point i'm making is that you need to multitask. you need to secure the border and have a safe and secure border area, and you need immigration reform. that's what this president has set out to do, that's what he has asked the depart...

Our economy has for foreign workers. the unions don't want to see more guest worker programs. that's why obama and the democrat leadership -- >> please, we have an illegal employer problem. not an illegal -- >> larry: aisha, who by the way has a new short film called "committed" on her facebook page. she's the face of alana on fx's "archer." >> actually agree with most of what's been said here. and we can kind of do some kind of polygamy thing with him later. terrible mental picture. the two things i agree most with is we need a clear, con size, easy path to citizenship. accept the fact our ec...

Wl >> larry: stephanie, a law. >> every time i come here i want to marry ben stein. pretty much what he said. yes. comprehensive immigration reform. we've got to close the borders. but there has to be a path to citizenship. i'm not as crazy a liberal as ronald reagan. i mean, i wouldn't talk about that kind of amnesty. but the last time we didn't pass anything we automatically gave how many millions of people amnesty. let's get something done now. that's what this arizona law is. it gives us an opportunity. >> larry: alfonso. >> we need a free market solution. we need legalization with a penal...

Of good policing. and it's certainly horrible if someone's crossing your property with horrible incidents but we publicize anecdotes and i don't think that's good reporting. >> neil: tonight, what are you going to leave people with? a sense that this is one big area we have to address or is it just added to the debate with arizona and whether it's legal or not for them to one up the feds or what? >> i hope to leave people with libertarians are wrong. you can't just have open borders and not all would say that but let's let more people in. by in large, immigrants are good for america. and if yo...

And the pervasive notion that tackling this is bad politics. >> he's president and has huge priorities in both bodies and nancy pelosi and harry reid could bring this up at any time if they wanted to. >> bret: the president with the first major speech on immigration reform, speech devoid of specifics about guest worker programs, work visas, and other specifics that would have to be in a piece of legislation. what about this and the debate ongoing? bring in the panel. bill kristol, editor of "weekly standard." juan williams, news analyst for national public radio. syndicated columnist charles k...