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Discussion and people feel a number of ways about it. teachers and coaches, their job is already big enough. do you think this belies a whole good guy with a gun argument? >> this is so baffling that it's hard to get your mind wrapped around it. what i will say is i got a chance to work in oakland, california for a long time working with young people in trouble. i would go to classrooms, they would have 32 kids in a classroom, six books and no chalk. so when you're talking about schools that -- where teachers are underpaid and they don't have enough resources, the idea that teachers are suppos...

Hundreds, i think that's hyperbole from the president. gun rights advocates believe they're in a strong position because of what happened. they think they're on solid ground saying look what happened here. a hero, a law abiding citizen with a legal rifle got in a truck, shot this guy first and then chased him down and is a hero and stopped more deaths. if the gun control advocates are hurt are they not by the details of this? >> sure. that is a fact. no question that in this case the good guy with the gun argument played out. it is also a fact that this system is incredibly broken, that the mi...

>> we let people have guns, not everybody needs assault weapons. >> they said he was going to a second event when he was stopped. but there's no evidence he was prevented another tragedy, he was on his way out, he was leaving. the good guy with a gun argument, study after study, have found it rarely happens. almost every incident the shooter is stopped by unarmed civilians who stopped the shooter when they tried to unload. >> he used 15 clips. he had time to reload. >> what's the difference between the united states and every other country in the world. in the united states, you're right, ever...

Truck go out and shoot him and hit him and neutralize him. and i can only say this, if he didn't have a gun, instead of having 26 dead, he would have had hundreds more dead. so that's the way i feel about it. if this man didn't have a gun or a rifle, you would be talking about a much worse situation in the great state of texas. thank you. >> that question came from one of nbc's white house reporters in south korea this morning. what you just heard was the good guy with the gun argument, a common one from gun rights advocates. it goes like this from the president. without the armed civilian who...

Shame on them, they have now as dana suggested, outlawed the process. thank god they have. but why is it, does the left cling to planned parenthood despite the exposeexpose's, tha because there's a feeling about planned parenthood, an attempt to sabotage a woman's right to choose. >> that's incorrect. now get ready to get flayed, greg? >> that's the perception. the same way when gun rights activists think whenever you talk about gun control you're taking away their guns. it's almost a mirror except a gun argument is correct. i love how they, when they always mention abortion is health care. bu...