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He thinks he can move ahead in the election process without the nra support or that the nra recognizes the change in the climate and willing to give him a little bit of slack particularly if he's proposing something that doesn't happen right away. you can feel better about one answer than the other in terms of the purity of politics. it does represent i think a significant shift in the potential climate. >> that's what happened when the gun control side puts the heat on and that's when students are speaking out so forcefully the way you are. marco rubio consistently voted with them of strong g...

I think immigration is probably the most prominent of those. so there are some clear head winds here. the other thing that's noetdable about the way that the post is in today, they're weighing in in support of these kids even though -- >> oh, my gosh. -- >> some f the attacks against these kids -- >> this guy. >> beyond slimy. >> it's stunning and you do think maybe the thing that might change now is whether that five to 6% for whom this is a single voting issue is gun rights and they call the republican senators and the republican senators are only hearing from their gun rights people. the hi...

They are worried that gun owners will punish them until there is a comparable intensity on the gun control side. it's very difficult to see this changing. we've seen some shifts since newtown. the politics have definitely changed, but enough? >> the difference here is there is a republican in the white house. that could make a difference if he decides he's going to jump in. i was communicating with somebody who talks to the president, who has been pushing the president to do something and said, much like you reported over the weekend, jeff, that he's not only up against his base, and many of w...

>> translation pass a law, translation good luck with that. >> the only way to have this debate is to have compassion on the gun control side as well as on the gun rights side. they have massive armies of single issue voters who are mobilized to punish lawmaker who is cross them. the discussion has come a long way. >> it's the mothers who are going to change this debate. >> you think that's true? they didn't in sandy hook. >> it's not just the moms of the victims. when i was talking about texas gun owners, i'm talking about gun toting moms. >> they want their pig tostol at the same time don't ...

Effectively. they're being an effective trade association for their clients. >> the one thing i would say to the kids, the young people who are being really effective lobbyists. it's not about the nra mobilization, it's about lawmakers getting rated by the nra. >> i think it's more of a culture. the nra has changed. they don't even talk about guns. they talk about patriotism. it's the american way to own a gun. >> there's a new poll out by quinnipiac that show that 90% of gun owners are in favor of background checks. it's the mentality of the people have, you do background checks today, then y...