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Dents. and ultimately there were be repercussions for that. >> bill: i don't disagree with that i don't think the court of public opinion has caught up with you. the comments you heard from jindal and trump there is division on the immigration front and gun front. there is not a lot of unity in the g.o.p. rights now, you are one of the more conservative senators, people like karl rove are saying you have got to back off and bobby jindal you have got to come to the senator more. could you see that? >> it sort of depends on the issue. with immigration reform i am in favor of immigration reform. ...

I do know in newtown, nobody's proposed anything that would have prevented that from happening, on the gun front. though i think in sharing information about mental health and doing a better job with dealing with people who have these obvious mental health challenges, we could have more impact. we will see. the senate majority leader said a day or two ago, he didn't think the senate would be voting on the gun legislation. that doesn't mean the president has the right to by executive order decide he can go beyond the constitution. you know, he is very activist on the executive order front and n...

Just you can solve it, you solve it. we're seeing the murder rate continue to spike. i think that's not acceptable. so we have to engage -- let them know we need them. >> bill: i agree with you. if the community comes together with you, the relation-based community should be leading, and then the police and everybody cooperates to make it harder. >> equal partners. >> bill: on the gun front, the narcotics dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made, and one black elderly man on the south side of chicago got prosecuted, because he said, i'm tired of people brea...

Back and feel like, okay, police just you can solve it, you solve it. we're seeing the murder rate continue to spike. i think that's not acceptable. so we have to engage -- let them know we need them. >> bill: i agree with you. if the community comes together with you, the relation-based community should be leading, and then the police and everybody cooperates to make it harder. >> equal partners. >> bill: on the gun front, the narcotics dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made, and one black elderly man on the south side of chicago got prosecuted, because ...

Back and feel like, okay, police just you can solve it, you solve it. we're seeing the murder rate continue to spike. i think that's not acceptable. so we have to engage -- let them know we need them. >> bill: i agree with you. if the community comes together with you, the relation-based community should be leading, and then the police and everybody cooperates to make it harder. >> equal partners. >> bill: on the gun front, the narcotics dealers are going to get guns no matter what you do. the argument can be made, and one black elderly man on the south side of chicago got prosecuted, because ...