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A gun control activist or on gun issues. there's no reason substantively that his nomination should be seen as a win for the gun reform side. except for the political fact that in order to get him as surgeon general, you had to beat the nra. and they beat the nra. the nra lost this one tonight when he was confirmed. and that comes as the country marks two years since the elementary school massacre at sandy hook elementary in newtown, connecticut in december 2012. it's been two years. and today, the families of nine of the kids and adults who were killed that day, and one of the adults who was ...

He was approved by a vote of the full senate earlier tonight. thank you, ted cruz. his nomination had been stalled for more than a year because the nra decided to wage war on his candidacy. he had never been an activist on gun issues or particularly involved on either side of the gun rights, gun reform debate. but the nra decided they were going to make an example of him. make a big show over opposing his nomination because of a couple of times he expressed his opinion online that gun violence should be seen as a public health matter in the united states. the nra thought that was too far. they...

We are about to get a surgeon general. we haven't had one for a year and a half. vivek murphy is not a gun control activist. he's not an activist on gun issues. there's no reason, substantively, that his nomination could be seen as a win for the gun reform side. except for the political fact that in order to get him as surgeon general, you had to beat the nra. and you know what? they beat the nra. the nra lost this one tonight when he was confirmed. and that comes as the country marks two years since the elementary school massacre at sandy hook elementary school in december 2012. it's been two...

Any parent no matter how capable or well meaning, to control. and i have actually probably had five or six cases over the course of my career where i've seen that. so i can appreciate probably in a different way what the rodgers experienced. >> do you feel without going into details you feel were private between the two of you, do you feel that the father of this individual, who is alleged to have done this to your son, wants to be part of this conversation on gun issues as you do? >> well, i just -- we issued the statement that we gave yesterday. in it we've said that we have agreed. we have ...

The person you got to know, any question in your mind as to whether or not this was about mental illness? >> oh, there's no question in my mind that this is about -- that this was about mental illness. it touches upon gun issues, it touches upon gender issues. but the maine main rubric is this is a young gentleman with some very severe problems in relating to others socially. >> so it's not about him being a movie or a gun law away from being safe to society. he has real plans in his head? >> yeah. i mean, you know, that wasn't obvious, that directly, you know, three to five years ago. i was j...