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Is the executive of the gun owners of america. mr. pratt do you see the failure to pass any new major gun legislation on the congressional level and not much on the state level, do you see that as a victory for gun rights? >> well, chris, we are not going to be able to talk about a victory until we get rid of the laws that prohibit people from having guns to protect themselves. every one of our mass murders in our country has occurred in places where guns were prohibited. >> so what you are saying is it is not a victory that you have stopped more gun lags. you want to see the legislation rolle...

Of the gun debate, larry pratt is the executive of the gun owners of america. mr. pratt do you see the failure to pass any new major gun legislation on the congressional level and not much on the state level, do you see that as a victory for gun rights? >> well, chris, we are not going to be able to talk about a victory until we get rid of the laws that prohibit people from having guns to protect themselves. every one of our mass murders in our country has occurred in places where guns were prohibited. >> so what you are saying is it is not a victory that you have stopped more gun lags. you wa...