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We're not defending ourselves. and the reason i sort of hedged on the should teachers carry, someone who isn't already carrying and trained and comfortable should not be sort of, hey, want a gun? that's a horrible, horrible idea. >> yeah. >> but it turns out that most mass killings happen where it's very clear that no one's shooting back. >> let me just say that a lot of these schools, from columbine to parkland to uvalde did have an armed school resource officer. it's just hard for them to be in exactly the right place at exactly the right time. but my point is these are not gun-free zones. >...

Just became a liberal problem. are you aware of the nra and the unbelievable -- let's just be honest -- we have a problem in america. it has nothing to do with liberals or democrats. there are more guns in america than there are people. >> vanessa, i 100% agree with you. it isn't a liberal problem or a conservative problem. it is a gun problem. but it's the liberals that are living in this fantasy land as if we have magic and we can just snap fingers and all those guns go aiwah. and there's nothing you're going to be able to do with the law that's going to eliminate those guns. >> the biden ad...

Can turn it on to the king county sheriff's office or frankly any law enforcement agency, had it not just in king county commits across cross the tape echo this is already a program that is being utilized. the other issue is gun buyback programs generally speaking tour would. talk to a number of errors over the last 24 hours including the former sheriff in cook county town, king county who told me the vast majority of gun to get returned are broken, their own, they are antiques. there are of no value whatsoever to the concern that it would lead to gun violence or is the cause of gun violence. ...

How big a factor is it? >> we know america has a gun problem, all these issues, crime, poverty, gun access, et cetera. but we know the solution to these problems, what is typically said is we will put more police there. we will flood those areas with more police officers. i think we are past. that 2022, there's a couple of things that are predictable, one is that violence is going to spike in the summer. and we can do something more, and puffer response to that problem. we have a lot more in our tool belt, we should be said to you, said to allow people to know more about what they can do. with...

But historically, yes, when it's hot crime goes up. violent crime goes up. like the other gentleman said, we see a difference in some of our urban areas for suburban areas. but we also see it rising in suburban areas also. >> on, can we go back to something that you said, because you say a lot of crime increases can be attributed to opportunity. we know that there are more guns on the streets in america than anywhere else in the world. how big a factor is that? >> yeah, we know america has a gun problem, our cities, that's where we really see this problem. we can't divorces issues, poverty, cr...