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The unemployment number dropping to 5%? >> the people say the country is on the wrong track but the republican argument is you don't want a third obama term. if the unemployment rate is below 5% doesn't it make it harder for republicans to say you don't want a democratic president? >> she'll be happy -- she said she's not running for barack obama's third term. it might be below 5% by then. that's how it's heading here. it's good news for her if the economy is improving. adding so many things to it. but i still think the problem for her long-term her likability and trust has been frozen. her is...

Voters want a winner and that is still an issue. >> and they want to preserve some of the obama legacy in terms of some of the things that were important. >> absolutely. >> governor, in light of what joy said, when you hear bernie sanders saying the american people don't want to hear about your e-mails, it also showed a level of leadership and character that even though it was interpreted as a gift to hillary clinton, i think it added to the stature and sort of balancing of the image of bernie sanders. >> no question. i think bernie did well in the areas that joy laid out, but i don't think he...

Night in terms of showing his passion and authenticity on the issues he believes in, but if you weren't a sanders devotee and you were trying to make up your mind, you have to be troubled by the foreign policy questions, and you have to be troubled by the gun question. i thought i knew the nuances of the gun question. i never knew that bernie sanders voted against the brady bill five times. that's extremely troubling for a lot of democrats. so i think although bernie did well in solidifying his base, i think in terms offic approximating up undecideds or taking voters away from hillary clinton,...

Was asked this question about vladimir putin. >> well, i think mr. putin is going to regret what he is doing. i think that when he gets into the -- >> he doesn't seem to be the type of guy that regrets a lot. i think he is rel lay reg t regretting crimea and ukraine and the decline of his economy and what he's trying to do now is save some face. >> it was rough going for bernie sanders in the first part of the debate last night. and the risk for bernie sanders who has already cornered the market on a lot of the activists in the democratic party, the activists on the left who are upset with w...

Is, but it is legal -- but if there is any illegal activity, they're searching for witnesses, statements, we'll hopefully try to get some answers to that question because certainly he was not alone. there were many eyewitnesses to what happened, and so right now there's a lot of unanswered questions. the one thing we do know, however, is lamar odom is here unconscious and unresponsive, and people can just sort of hope for a recovery. >> and people are. hollywood -- you mentioned people showing up at his bedside. on twitter we were looking earlier, ken, it's been an outpouring for him. >> well,...