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Columnist for the washington times. everyone agrees we've got to reduce the gun violence there this country, charlie, the question is how do you go about it? what does the vice president seem to think the answer is? >> well, i think the white house has made several clear signals that they intend to do focus very much on the gun side of things, the gun ownership and the gun purring sid purchase purchase side of things. they've proposed limiting the high capacity magazines to actually tracking all guns in the united states. and then also to -- creating larger government lists that would sort of ...

Officials were there today as the administration begins deliberating how to prevent tragedies like the one in sandy casey, the senator from pennsylvania, who is a classic pennsylvanian, in the past he's received a b plus or an a rating from the nra. he told "the philadelphia enquirer" he will come back for -- coming out for a new assault weapons ban and legislation banning high round magazines. he said his decision amounted to being summoned by your conscience. he said his wife had pressed him years ago joe clark, a great liberal senator, on this issue. first guy i ever voted for actually. now...

The senate, i will vote for both. that's a risky, strong position by bob casey. >> he's not the only one. joe manchin, the senator from west virginia, on monday was saying this has changed his thinking. of course, these are two democrats -- >> but manchin hasn't said he will vote for these two bills. bobby casey said he will. it's different to have conversations, another to make a commitment. >> i think there will be more and more lawmakers who will follow what casey has done. i don't think he's the only one, and i think we'll start seeing some republicans -- >> it's the toughest case. let me ...

Bobby casey said he will. it's different to have conversations, another to make a commitment. >> i think there will be more and more lawmakers who will follow what casey has done. i don't think he's the only one and i think we'll start seeing some republicans -- >> it's the toughest case. let me go to ron reagan. i know pennsylvania defeated years ago joe clark, a great liberal senator, on this issue. first guy i ever voted for actually. now it's back. i know the people on the gun side of the argument, i know them closely. they will be out there vigilantly looking for any traitor they find, an...

Is based on more than gun rights here. this is a very broad approach to whether government can solve problems or not and interestingly enough we're at a time when people have little cost in business. normally you see numbers on government support going down and business going up. this is not a particularly fond of the bailouts either this group. there's a lack of confidence in all institutions and all parties among not just these folks but more broadly, too. when it comes down to the gun side of things, you get into dangerous element. it's dangerous just to dismiss all of these people as the n...