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She just -- she was really just in her heart just a really, really good kid. >> how about one more to your right. >> my son was 29 years old. he was a murdered december 8th, 2003. and that's when i really found out what the word gangs mean. and i know they say guns don't kill but people do but i do feel they get them so plentifully in our communities that it could have been prevented a lot of us if they weren't easily gotten. >> lucy? >> i was visiting with my family for thanksgiving in chicago and i had just talked to jordan thanksgiving day and he was really excited about going to the mall t...

Which we show an empathy and a sensitivity? where is the integrity? >> let's talk about the gun issue. chris cuomo talked to donald trump earlier and on the gun issue he said some things that some politicians say. this was a mentally ill person. guns don't kill, people do. >> we know that. i mean, it's true there's not a push button solution to this. we're in a spiritual crisis. it's a moral crisis. what kind of people are we? the only way you get out of it is through love exemplified and enacted. justice is what love looks like in public. when you have a love deficit, you have a justice defic...

Both of whom were 16 years of age. this is the grim reality for the city of chicago. frustrating for families forced to bury their loved ones. the police superintendent is lashing out at what he calls lax state and federal gun laws. >> there's a greater sanction for the gang member to lose that firearm from their gang than there is to go to jail for possession of that gun. >> but what happens when guns don't kill? we know the statistics on homicides and incarceration in this country and in chicago, but there's an outcome of gun violence that many don't contemplate and it's plaguing cities acro...

Briefed by some agents or some kind of middle ground where it doesn't just seem that he's only going to texas to raise money for democrats, but he's engaged in what's going on there. >> we'll watch for it tomorrow. all of us, ryan lizza, thank you so much, joining me in washington. just ahead, the mother of that toddler who died in that hot car visits the jail today where her husband is behind bars. as she remains under the spotlight. you're about to hear from one of the couple's friends, and what happens when guns don't kill? after a deadly weekend in chicago, you will hear from two former ga...

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. >> several movies delayed releases because of shooting at sandy hook. >> that's not going to change the situation. it all comes from fear and ignorance and people not really raising their children and paying attention to what's going on. >> eric, she echoed the nra like slogan. guns don't kill, channeling her inner conservative. >> good stuff, madonna. >> in the tank, madonna. you have to cozy up to the right wingers. >> i don't know if that's what she meant. it is like out of fear and ignorance. i think she was throwing words together. >> she made p...