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>> man, number one, who needs to fall back is fake rage. it's like how can you be mad at everything? there's only 24 hours in the day. >> i agree. >> everything can't set you off. >> like everyone is ready to be outraged before they even know the falkts. >> exactly. not only mad for four days. >> four days -- four hours. >> you think, chris red, the cable news makes that worse? >> um, probably, but -- >> you think cable news hosts sometimes take over a segment when they're a guest in it? >> yeah, then they pit you against each other. you get caught in the middle. >> i've got a question. i've g...

That's literally why we started gus toe, to help simplify and make all of those things much, much easier for the companies. >> on that note, i always say running a business you do not have to reinvent the wheel. so much of the logistics of running a business, either you can outsource or find an adviser or friend who has done it before, and you concentrate on the stuff that is just about your business. >> highest and best use. >> yeah. >> we have had that conversation so much internally. you want people to have experience in things that you don't know how to do. you know, it should be a partner...

Ali webb, founder of dry bar, specializing in just blowouts is. they have stores across the united states. and josh is the co-founder of gus toe, a payroll company supporting 60,000 companies nationwide and valued at more than a billion dollars at your last raise. congratulations to you. you have both started it and seen these companies through. what is one tip other people need to know about? >> as a founder of a very small company can, which is all i thought dry bar is going to be, i think we learned early on the importance of bringing in people who know things that you don't and bringing on...