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Guy his name is gabe and he was actually at the rally here in charlottesville. this is a kid who wants to do gut g but doesn't know how because he was never set up with the tools to do that. i would really love it if you guys met. would you be open to that? >> i think so. if he's willing to meet me, i would like to talk to him, maybe gain some insight. >> i really appreciate that and i think what's possible is we work hard to make sure no other mothe mothers don't want anybody taoels have to be in this club. there shouldn't have to be mothers who lose their children because of hate. >> susan's...