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Word speculation out there for no good reason. when martinez did this he undermines that. he undermines his credibility. only thing he has in the courtroom are control and credibility. i think this was a huge mistake for this guy. jon: does it threaten, does it threaten, arthur, the prospect of the prosecution's case in any way? >> no. i agree with everything that fred says. anybody who worked in a prosecutor's office like i was blessed to have a father who is a mentor, will tell you, you know, you maintain decorum the same way jon, you do, when you're covering the news. like, when you hear a ...

To really back it up -- >> right. i think it will be fascinating to see if she has another witness that will come on the stand and say, travis alexander, he battered me but another witness also shays that as well. otherwise it is just her word. talking about a case, self-defense, she stabbed this guy 27 times. she killed him three times. it was such overkill, such viciousness and brutality, it is hard for anyone to wrap their head around that. jon: that saint sound like, self-defense, you fire the gun or you maybe take one plunge with the knife and run away. >> i've said it before i will say i...