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Naval academy, the air force academy, is understand the exercise of power in the absence of money. you can't give a guy a raise in the military for charging a machine gun nest. you can't tell somebody, i'll play you extra if you fly this night mission. trump only understands money. the very idea that he would think that the answer to all of his problems lies with these guys that are so completely different from him, have a completely different background in what they do and how they've lived their lives, it's just foolish. it's foolhardy. it's really unbelievable, i think, because he stacked t...

At least those of us on the outside feel that there is. and donald trump seems to share none of that in any way, none of the discipline, none of some of the admirable qualities that the military does instill. the generals involved and now working with president trump at the cabinet level and now general kelly as chief of staff, they don't have any real experience in their military lives trying to control a person like this, right? i mean this kind of person would have been donald trumped out of the military very quickly. >> well, there's that. i think you're exactly right about that, lawrence....

To resign very shortly. let me go back to stephanie. he talks like trump. >> he does and trump likes it. he says to ryan, i fired a guy a couple days ago. yet he said on the record yesterday, well, we let him resign. he is saying a few different things. then he put out a statement saying i used colorful language. i shouldn't do that and i won't going forward. look at the tweet anthony scaramucci put out. look at the responses. you have trump supporters in there saying, speak truth. i love the passion. right on, man. we can say all day long this is below the white house. this is despicable, dis...

Police will have is was this guy a suicide bomber or a bomber that's just going to leave bombs around? it's kind of a different animal when you're investigating it. you know, that leaves bombs around and escapes becomes ever more dangerous for you because he can do that repeatedly. the bomber that dies is just basically the deliveryman sometimes. and if he made the bomb as well, like we saw in manchester, then he can't make another one. even though it's on the internet and even though people can learn, when you have a bomber that hadn't -- has done it and now can't do it any more that means so...

Culture that still remains at the v.a.? >> i think it's -- thank you for having me, pete. pete: um-huh. >> i think it says that the president is trying to move v.a. in the right direction but unfortunately he doesn't have a lot of support from the leadership who should have handled the firing process better so that the president's wishes would have been properly executed. remember that president trump inherited this mess from president obama and secretary shulkin who was over the hospital i hav v.a. and should e fired this guy a year ago. pete: i have to push you on that a little bit. one inst...