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Right and left? far right? >> kibbey says dick army wanted to make this a substantial organization. kibbe says no, they were basically enriching themselves. so each side has a completely different narrative. >> joan, jump in there. is it the far right? or is it about money? >> it's the right versus the far right. they're all a bunch of grifters. i love you and david to death, but you're become way too nice to dick armey. >> you're calling him a grifter? >> he walked away -- grifting isn't stealing, necessarily. he walked away with $8 million and he's mad at matt kibbe? >> you can't call a guy ...

Quietly. joy, david brooks writes in the "new york times" a budget stalemate on these terms will confirm every bad republican stereotype. so republicans have to realize they are going to cave on tax rates. the only question what is they get in return. that is david brooks writing that in the new york times. your thoughts? >> absolutely. republicans have managed to box themselves into exactly the stereotype that democrats presented about republicans and have been for a long time, which is that they only care about protecting the top 2%. protecting those top 2% is the hill they will die on and o...

That cannot relate to or he would be ahead. i don't understand it. i don't know what it is. >> i think bob is right in a sense. the country is ready to change, it's ready to move on. it likes the fellow obama, but let's face it. we gave the guy a shot at it. there is a holding back, sean. people are saying i just don't know about this fellow romney. i think romney helped himself in his speech down there at tampa but he has not closed the sale with the american people yet. a lot of folks are saying, maybe we ought to stick with obama even though we don't like what is going on. >> obama can't pr...

100-round ammunition clip to kill and wound as many people as he possibly can, our government believes that we should do nothing. >> are the media inflaming the issue? plus, with the london olympics underway, nbc news pulls out the stops to promote the network's coverage of the games. >> back here in london with tower bridge lit up so beautifully behind us, with less than 24 hours to go now until the opening ceremony -- >> is this promotion in the guise of news? we'll talk about that and more with veteran sports writer frank deford. i'm howard kurtz, and this is "reliable sources."...

here we go. it's the first full day of jury deliberations in the jerry sandusky day. i do mean full. 48 counts that they are considering. and that is not counting the bombshell claim from one of sandusky's own sons. and in philadelphia, the 13th day of deliberations in the 13th week of a sex abuse trial of two people belonging to the catholic church. priests, one an alleged monster, the other an alleged enabler. and we are also in orlando where hispanic voters are about to hear from marco rubio and then later president obama. you're going to hear from them, too, right here in the cnn...