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Know, here's a guy being pissed off that he was left for adoption and when he has a child, he wants to run the other way. >> yes. that's a huge paradox. even when i first met steve, the fact that he was given up for adoption was a huge emotional issue in his life. >> i was, remember, right here on the lawn telling lisa, the girl across the street, that i was adopted, and she said, so, does that mean your real parents didn't want you? oh, lightning bolt. i remember running into the house i think crying asking my parents, and they sat me down, they said, no, you don't understand, they said, we s...

Lawyer and his wife, except when i popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. so my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking, we've got an unexpected baby boy, do you want him? they said, of course. my biological mother found out later that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. she refused to sign the final adoption papers. she only relented a few months later when my parents promised that i would go to college. this was the start in my life. >> another paradox...

He is more of a commanding figure, more of a unifier. would that work? would the public accept the fact that a guy being knocked off who is clearly the leader? >> would it be smart? i don't think so. would it work? absolutely. people would come into the convention and there would be a lot of horse trading going on and be like i'm going to endorse you. >> before people had a hand. >> the rules in the primary are you have to cast the first ballot for the person that you are a delegate for and after that it is a free for all. >> if there is no nominee by the time of the convention in july how is ...

As well. so does everybody. >> pat, was thinking whether he needs a reagan microphone moment, something that sets him off or really gets him going. >> i think he does. either that or hey has to show some strength and fire out there in the primaries because i think kashich is just in the to race, he clearly has the energy and purposefulness and the eye of the tiger, and rubio showed something, and frankly, donald trump was mixing it up all night long and everybody is talking today about donald trump and what he said and that's why roger ailes had 24 million people watching. roger is the big win...

It sounds very bad. you turn anybody who has two ounces of marijuana into a hard -- >> seven convictions, felonies. seven. >> that doesn't make you necessarily a murderer. they released 10,000 other people out who you consider these enemies as monica was saying who did not kill somebody. you are taking the one person and trying to -- >> you are fine with this guy being in the country. you are fine with him being in the country, this alleged murderer you are okay with him being in the country? >> he wasn't a murderer when they had him. this is a very tragic situation but it's not representative...