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Followers. they don't want anything to either delay or ultimately derail this biggest transfer. >> i take it that the ones being released now are moreyñz hardened -- >> -- correct. >> than the five we release to do qatar, right? >> i wouldn't say they are more hardened than the taliban five who areu in qatar. i would say they are like the coffee grounds at the bottom of your perk co-later. we per co-later. we are getting down to the very end. that's why they are so hard to get rid of. they will only take them in onesies and twosies. >> we did some deal. do you know doo we know anything about ...

Things we're learning about the pilot, that he may have attended this trial of this guy ibrahim. i don't care what airlines they get on, i don't think i'd want a pilot who had controversial, extreme views getting in the cockpit. what do you think? >> i think we have to be a little careful there. because ibrahim and the people's justice party are pro.ants of open elections. >> i agree that he was living under oppression, but that's not the point. the point is he went to the trial. could have been upset, hours earlier. that concerns me. >> no, that's absolutely true. and to the point of what can...