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Shea might have missed. they have the help of an eagle eye detective. known the the evidence whisperer. prosecutor matt murphy thought daron wyatt's investigation of cathy torrez's murder was compelling. but he knew that making the case against sam lopez wouldn't be easy. the d.a.'s office had declined to try it twice before. so murphy called for help from a detective whose legendary skill with cold cases has earned him a reverential nickname. >> larry montgomery is the real deal. i mean, the guy is -- the evidence whisperer. another nickname for him is st. larry. >> reporter: larry sees thi...

Detective whose legendary skill with cold cases has earned him a reverential nickname. >> larry montgomery is the real deal. i mean, the guy is -- the evidence whisperer. another nickname for him is st. larry. >> reporter: larry sees things other people don't see? >> larry sees things that many people don't see, yeah. and he looks at it from a different perspective. >> reporter: they both felt the key to the case lay in sam lopez's own words, his taped interviews with the original detectives. and they thought the perfect man to listen to those interviews was the evidence whisperer. guilty peop...

His supporters. they were lapping it up. i think we could definitively say now that that line is going to be part of the -- is essentially a gop or a trump talking point heading into 2018. anti-me too, backlash to the me too movement has become one of his main talking points. >> he's never said anything like it -- so unfortunate that for 30 years women have felt that they couldn't come forward or we need to cultivate an environment where women and men are both respected. nothing like that. it goes straight to the -- you know, the guy is -- >> you wonder, that type of line could work for the pr...

>> larry montgomery is the real deal. i mean, the guy is -- the evidence whisperer. another nickname for him is st. larry. >> reporter: larry sees things other people don't see? >> larry sees things that many people don't see, yeah. and he looks at it from a different perspective. >> reporter: they both felt the key to the case lay in sam lopez's own words, his taped interviews with the original detectives. and they thought the perfect man to listen to those interviews was the evidence whisperer. guilty people have tells, just like in a poker game? >> absolutely. they don't have that innocent ...

Reverential nickname. >> larry montgomery is the real deal. i mean, the guy is -- the evidence whisperer. i mean another name for him is saint larry. >> larry sees things other people don't see? >> larry sees things that many people don't see, yeah. and he looks at it from a different perspective. >> reporter: they both felt the key to the case lay in sam lopez's own words his taped interviews with the original detectives. and they thought the perfect man to listen to those interviews was the evidence whisperer. >> guilty people have tells, just like in a poker game? >> absolutely. they don't ...