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>> half on our publishing went to warner brothers. but he got them to return mine. >> jackson turned me onto the eagles. he had turned me onto a lot of artists. and i felt i owed him something. >> and that not surprisingly was not acceptable to the eagles. there was a certain amount of ire, like real like, you know, like [ bleep ]. i mean, whoa, we didn't get our publishing back. so it was the publishing issue and the fact that the business managers and lawyers were all shared common guys. did they have a conflict when an issue came up and which side to take? >> it makes you feel like meat. it...

>> we didn't know much about the business at that point. we were pretty naive. ♪ going down to the swamp river country some day ♪ >> we kicked around in the l.a. clubs for a while, played the whiskey, played some of the clubs in the south bay area. and nothing really happened for us. >> jd and i were looking for any place to play. we had heard about this guy jackson brown. he'd been playing the same clubs we had but we had never seen him perform. >> california, mr. jackson brown. >> thank you. >> there were a bunch of gigs that they had and some gigs that i had that they would show up at m...

Talking ♪ ♪ you're prisoners walking through this world all alone ♪ >> there have been articles and things that identify me with the l.a. sound. it's sort of like me and jackson brown and the eagles. all of us are reaching out for other musical influences all the time. >> the so-called southern california sound was developing. it was fresh, it was different it was unique. it was a melting pot. people moving here from all over the united states to pursue their dream. actors, musicians, managers, agents. want a bee like me. i picked up the phone and called david geffen who was just startin...

It was really an illegal place, just a cubbyhole and that's where jackson lived with jd and i above. >> that was it. there was a stereo, a piano, a bed, a guitar, you know, a teapot. >> we slept late in those days except around 9:00 in the morning i'd hear jackson browne's teapot going off, this whistle in the distance. then i'd hear him playing piano. i didn't really know how to write songs. i knew i wanted to write songs, but i didn't know exactly -- you just wait around for inspiration, you know, what was the deal? well, i learned through the jackson's ceiling and my floor exactly how to wr...

Given jackson brown the book of gunfighters. it had all the big outlaw groups, frank and jessie, the dylan dalton gang. we were all just fascinated with those guys. and we thought it would make a great analogy. >> well, for example, we live outside the laws of normality. because records are bank robberies you usually heard about these guys before you ever saw them. they had posters that were wanted posters up for people. there just seemed to be some parallels. ♪ >> it wasn't really like we were outlaws. but i think they did have their nobler characteristics. ♪ the life upon on the road ♪...