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Anderson. that's what you are. stephanie grisham, yep, they deserve to be talked about that way. one of the things i'm doing with all my guests tonight on that side of the aisle as a point of civility, how we disagree matters. that is something that cannot stand, that cannot be approved. if you can't get past that point, i'll have no further discussion with anybody. if you can't own that we can't be that way with each other just on the basis of opposition, there's nothing else to talk about. on the point of substance, if this guy morrison who's still in the white house who was on the july 25th...

>> but this is what i'm saying. what basis would you have to not believe bill taylor? how is he -- he's not a never trumper. >> i'm not making any judgment. i'm saying i haven't seen -- >> but a sworn statement from a man you have no reason to disbelieve is not impressive to you? >> i haven't seen the transcript of the entire hearing. i haven't seen how he defended that statement. that is part of the whole process here. what i've seen are successive selective leaks by adam schiff and democrats on that committee to -- >> taylor is not a leak. sondland is not a leak. volker is not a leak. their ...

Chris. you know you would not as a lawyer, as a prosecutor, as someone who is after the truth -- >> it's not a legal process -- >> chris, you know you would not bring a case based on hearsay. you would not proceed forward with a case -- >> hold on. how is it hearsay if bill taylor zblsh are text messages hearsay? >> text messages are not hearsay. bill taylor -- >> gordon sondland hearsay? >> this guy morrison listened to the call. and now has his own things to come on and say. let's listen to it. let's have a round of hearings after the depositions and then let's have a trial. >> i think it's ...

Prime time." a lot to choose from, chris. >> you oppose this president and you're in his party you're scum, anderson. that's what you are. stephanie grisham, yep, they deserve to be talked about that way. one of the things i'm doing with all my guests tonight on that side of the aisle as a point of civility, how we disagree matters. that is something that cannot stand, that cannot be approved. if you can't get past that point, i'll have no further discussion with anybody. if you can't own that we can't be that way with each other just on the basis of opposition, there's nothing else to talk ab...

Democrats aren't doing. i'm going to give the president the benefit of the doubt until i see the entire testimony. i haven't seen it. >> but this is what i'm saying. what basis would you have to not believe bill taylor? how is he -- he's not a never trumper. >> i'm not making any judgment. i'm saying i haven't seen -- >> but a sworn statement from a man you have no reason to disbelieve is not impressive to you? >> i haven't seen the transcript of the entire hearing. i haven't seen how he defended that statement. that is part of the whole process here. what i've seen are successive selective le...