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>> 16 years ago your candidacy didn't get off the ground because of a man named bush. 16 years later you are thinking of running for president again and there is a guy named bush in the field. >> could be deju vu all over again. i don't know. we'll have to see. >> if you thought he was the best candidate to be president of the united states, would you be exploring a run for president? >> chuck, i have more experience than anybody in the field. that's really what i have that stands out. i don't just talk about what i want to do. i can tell people what i've done. you think about it. i was chairm...

>> 16 years ago your candidacy didn't get off the ground because of a man named bush. 16 years later you are thinking of running for president again and there is a guy named bush in the field. >> could be deju vu all over again. i don't know. we'll have to see. >> if you thought he was the best candidate to be president of the united states, would you be exploring a run for president? >> chuck, i have more experience than anybody in the field. that's really what i have that stands out. i don't just talk about what i want to do. i can tell people what i've done. you think about it. i was chairm...

Running surpluses, the largest tax cuts in the country we reformed government. of course, as you know, we've not ignored those who live in the shadows, mentally ill, drug addicted. as a result of the growing economy, as a result of giving people in ohio increasingly a sense that they're included, i had a terrific election victory. 86 out of 88 counties. i won cuyahoga county. >> cleveland, right? >> which obama won. it was cool. >> 16 years ago your candidacy didn't get off the ground because of a man named bush. 16 years later you are thinking of running for president again and there is a guy...

Outp i think bush's early move definitely step straight into his finance path. i'm hearing from republican sources that bush is working on hiring a finance staff and some reporters preparing to launch a super pack as early as next week. i think as that establishment fight sort of moves forward, they'll want to coalesce around somebody because you want to put up somebody strong against this as you show incredibly wide field of people running on the right. >> i think back to 2008 and huckabee had a very successful campaign in iowa and a few other states but that came out of no where. two years e...

So huckabee will, i think, have as much of a chance this time as he did in 2008. >> i think that's a good way of looking at this. those two separate tracks. call it the social conservative track and whatever label you want to put on it. you look at the social conservative side with mike huckabee. in terms of that establishment track right now. we were talking earlier in the show. the romney noise on hold that jeb bush has made his move and chris christie clearly interested in that thing and that competition between jeb bush and chris christie. where does that stand right now and how do you see...