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Would have been able to explain certain aspects of the case but couldn't because pennsylvania law doesn't allow that but will allow it in a few days. had the trial not been rushed -- >> bill: i don't know where you are going here because there is so much testimony against your client. so many people have stepped forward and then you have the witnesses and the shower and you have all of this stuff, i understand a robust defense is part of the constitution and we all get that but i'm not sure it looks to me and correct me if i am wrong, you are trying to use technicalities to get a guy off who i...

Would have been able to explain certain aspects of the case but couldn't because pennsylvania law doesn't allow that but will allow it in a few days. had the trial not been rushed -- >> bill: i don't know where you are going here because there is so much testimony against your client. so many people have stepped forward and then you have the witnesses and the shower and you have all of this stuff, i understand a robust defense is part of the constitution and we all get that but i'm not sure it looks to me and correct me if i am wrong, you are trying to use technicalities to get a guy off who i...

Of discovery -- >> bill: the bottom line on any appeal is this: did the guy do it? and i think that your co-counsel was pretty clear in his statements after the trial that he didn't have any beef with what was presented and the way it was presented and he just thought the judge and everybody else did the job that they are required to do? >> and we have appellate courts because one out of five times judges make the wrong decisions in the course of their employment. it's a wrong judgment call at the wrong moment. that's what we're going to explore on appeal. >> bill: you sound like a stand-up gu...

Explain certain aspects of the case but couldn't because pennsylvania law doesn't allow that but will allow it in a few days. had the trial not been rushed -- >> bill: i don't know where you are going here because there is so much testimony against your client. so many people have stepped forward and then you have the witnesses and the shower and you have all of this stuff, i understand a robust defense is part of the constitution and we all get that but i'm not sure it looks to me and correct me if i am wrong, you are trying to use technicalities to get a guy off who is guilty yard. it looks ...

Say he describes himself on his rental application and you say he was living, born or raised in the san diego area and lived in riverside for some time. is there any background for the time he lived there. i only heard he got a speeding ticket. there really is no history with any type of scuffle with the law before. >> you know, we don't have that information yet. we, of course, are looking into it. but, you know, as some of your -- some of the people you've interviewed this morning have said, you don't know what goes through the minds of these people, what sets them off. we know that harris a...