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Extra interview because you can't get someone on contempt if they take the fifth. if he talskes it in a blanket w and they serve it up to the department of justice and they see this guy pled the fifth, would that be enough for contempt? i don't think so. i think his game would probably be to go up and make a blanket assertion question by question. it would be, by the way, out of the public eye in a private deposition on saturday, so i think it would be a very uncomfortable but unsatisfying back and forth for both parties. >> a lot to understand here. harry litman, thank you. >> thank you, vict...

Criminal justice system by passing bills and reduction of prison beds. reduction of prison sentences and so on and to me it's ludicrous. >> bill: happens happening all across the country. we don't have enough money there are certain people that you red flag them for the rest of their life. >> i agree. >> bill: you rape a child or sexually assault anybody, big red flag. okay? rest of your life. >> this is a big societal change. i have been in this business almost 30 years. this is a big societal change that's been going on about 10, 15 years where severing about rehabilitation. rehabilitation. ...