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Guy rich, he puts his must be in a tax haven overseas and if he has extra, he opens a factory in china. >> is this guy a fiscal hawk or does he simply spend money at liberty when he likes the project? whether it's prescription drug, t.a.r.p. of bailout of rich people, bailout of corporations or banks. it seems like ryan only starteded worrying about paying for things since obama's been elected president. under p., he didn't worry about the price tag. what do we make of that, michael? just a simple hypocrisy of a guy who will spend any nickel as long as it's designated spending, but the minute ...

Economy more than that guy working in the mines digging up coal or whatever? >> of course, it doesn't. so many of these theories that he's -- buys into have been proven not to work. one of the problems that he -- he's got, i have known paula long time, is that he's fascinated by economic theory. some of which are 100 years old, when you didn't have globalization and you could make the rich guy rich and eventually, he might through a little of the money around. today, when you make the rich guy rich, he puts his money in a tax haven overseas and if he has any extra, he opens a factory in china....

Major issue in the campaign. but anything, any anecdote that supports anaritive of the preexisting stereotype or narrative of a guy rich is out of touch and looks a little stiff. everybody agrees doesn't have the common touch. hurts im. >> bret: congressman paul not on the campaign trail today. he was on capitol hill. there was back and forth mary kathryn, take a listen to thi this. >> if i had to vote in south carolina, in order to keep this thing going, i'd vote for newt. and i would want this to continue more debate, more vetting of candidates because we know the mistake made in our country...