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What he's done with barack obama, and if you go back and you think about our presidents, some of the mean, behind the scenes, certainly richard nixon, but in their sort of public personas, whether it's reagan or bill clinton or barack obama, they're not mean personally. they don't go for the angry, excessive attack rhetoric, so maybe andrew jackson was pretty mean when he was president, but we don't really elect these type of people to the highest office in the land. so newt would really be breaking a barrier. >> i think it's a fair question. would you want a guy as president who likes wrestli...

Questions there in ohio, and i wasn't taking a position on those. one of them, for instance, relates to health care and mandates. with regards to question two, which is the collective bargaining question, i am 110% behind governor kasich and in support of that question. >> you know, it's like he offsets his gyrations by saying, i'm now 110%, like 110 proof or something. i don't know how you can be 110% for something, but why does he shift from ambivalence and confusion to absolutely certainty plus? >> that's -- i think that's a perfect illustration of what happened in ohio this week of the shi...

Inflammatory. and then, of course, you have his political record and what happened when he was speaker of the house, the ethics charges, his philandering, and most recently, you know, $500,000 in tiffany's debt. there are a lot of holes in newt gingrich presidential campaign. >> well, here's a history of his abrasive comments. listen to what he told "national review" last year about president obama. "what if obama is so outside our comprehension that only if you understand kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together his actions? that is the most accurate predictive model fo...

Seek nothing but a better future in this country themselves. >> congresswoman, give us your sense from this out west in california, where most people who come from the united states k come from the south. what do you think the feeling is about this guy rubio who's been exposed as another person who came here because of economics? >> well, i would agree with my colleague's comments. he got caught, his family obviously came for the same reason that so many families come, from mexico, from central america, from south america, from europe, from asia. people want an opportunity here. and unfortunat...

Because that's what you just said. >> sure. and i think if he becomes president, it's a question of whatever he perceives at any given moment in his presidency to be sort of his imperative of the moment. >> what would his role be, then? it's not leader. >> of course not. that's the open question. that's why you can read the question of, is he a secret moderate, is he really a conservative? because maybe he becomes president and feels he has to serve the tea party. maybe the republicans are running the house or the senate, and he's the conservative president. because he feels all the pressure f...