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Ukraine, meeting with the prosecutor general and being invoked by a phone call to say you should meet with giuliani, that should never happen, period. but in addition it should never happen to be pursuing the private interests of the president. and if you're the secretary of state, if you're anybody in the state department, this has to be just incredibly annoying to have to have dealt with this. >> so here's the president of the united states calling the president of ukraine. this is like a horse and rabbit stew. the president of the united states and little old ukraine that's vulnerable to th...

Telling the president of the ukraine you've got to talk to my guy rudy. this is going to be a tremendous problem, and you're right. can you imagine what that show is going to be like when they get rudy giuliani under oath in front of that committee? i mean not even the democrats can screw this one up, right? >> i don't know. i think if you look at the testimony of corey lewandowski, one of the things that democrats really can't do is that they can not have a corey lewandowski moment with rudy giuliani. and there's every opportunity for that given -- >> bring back the attorney. >> but i think t...

>> who i am sure have been sent on sabbatical. the. >> they need to be answering this question with this information now in the public space. and if in fact this file goes back over for reconsideration, which it should, and barr is told by the ethics folks, hey, you can't be on this one. i mean, trump will lose it because that's his whole thing. he wants a guy to fix it for him. and he's got his inside guy barr and his outside guy rudy. dumb, dumb, dumber, three. >> what could go wrong? >> so the thing is, is it's alarming bill barr has proven himself. he's shown us who he is in the mueller ep...

Respect, did the firing of comey by you have anything to do with those events. the fact that you wouldn't protect michael flynn. and you were going to ask for the personal, political and judicial loyalty of your own fbi director. did it have anything to do with you firing the guy after he refused to give you that information. just the thought. that is the guy rudy would not like to converse about. thank you all. coming up, our election system isn't the only thing that the russians may have targeted russian hackers gained -- dan coats warned of a cyber 9/11 maybe. plus a battle of the soul of t...

This case to trial. that's the first thing that i think really smells. i don't know if they got caught up in a situation where this one guy rudy changed -- told on these two people that it wasn't him that they were involved and i think they got caught up in it and it snowballed. there was a prosecutor who came out and said she thought the chances of her being released based on new forensics is pretty good. >> do you think national pride has anything to do with how this judgment will be rendered? >> here is how it works logistically. it's two judges and two lay people. the chief judge has two v...