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Side saying that there shouldn't be. the workers on friday said that we'll accept the contributions to the pension, we'll accept contributions to health care. given the governor gave them what he sought, what's this really supposed to be but an attack on collective bargaining. i love -- we were talking early, i love the smell of democracy. it's so inspiring that so many people feel moved to come out and express themselves. but this in wisconsin, make no doubt about it, everybody understands cuts need to happen but this is really about collective bargaining. >> ed gillispie is this open season ...

Compensation. that is what's at stake here. it goes way beyond this budget issue. this governor of wisconsin is not setting out just to fix a budget he's setting out to break a union. that's a major move in terms of american history. i believe the president should have weighed in. i think we should all weigh in and say do the right thing for wisconsin's budget but do not destroy decades of work to establish the rights ever workers to speak for themselves. >> david, if i could just add. this is a campaign flyer i have. i don't know if you can see it from the last election cycle where wisconsin ...

It's important to understand that you can't look at all these states as one. the governor touched on it very well. this issue in wisconsin deals with whether or not public employees ought to pay in their health insurance program which they don't now and their pension prom which they don't. the unions agreed to do this. this has now become and president obama was right in his description of it, questionable whether he should have gotten init, but this has become an assault on unions and the ability to organize in wisconsin. i'm hopeful that the governor f-he's serious about the math, which he o...

Be. the workers on friday said that we'll accept the contributions to the pension, we'll accept contributions to health care. given the governor gave them what he sought, what's this really supposed to be but an attack on collective bargaining. i love -- we were talking early, i love the smell of democracy. it's so inspiring that so many people feel moved to come out and express themselves. but this in wisconsin, make no doubt about it, everybody understands cuts need to happen but this is really about collective bargaining. >> ed gillispie is this open season on unions by a republican governo...

Don't now. the unions agreed to do this. this has now become -- and i think president obama was right in his description of it, questionable whether he should have gont into it, but this has become an assault on unions and the ability to organize in wisconsin. i'm hopeful that the governor if he's serious about the math, which he obviously is, that he will take the unions at their word and say we're now prepared, which is the right thing to do in other states where public employees are not doing this. they should use this as a model. to say that collective bargaining ought to be ended i'm unco...