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Job where they don't really have a choice as to whether or not they can union representation. i think democracy is a good thing. they need to have more. >> harold ford, look at the numbers from 2008 in wisconsin and the presidential race. this was a state that the president carried 56 to 42. a swing state. you wouldn't know it by those numbers. but more republicans certainly in the mid-term elections had strong gains and make no mistake, the president is elevated to governor walker. this is about energizing unions. this is the core of the democratic party, and this can be a big issue now. >> i...

Earlier. i love the smell of democracy. it's so inspiring that so many people feel moved to come out and express themselves. but this in wisconsin, make no doubt about it, everybody understands cuts need to happen, but this is really about collective bargaining. >> ed gillespie, is this open season on unions by a republican governor? is that what this is about? that's what the president said. >> i was interested in seeing the president insert himself and i agree with lindsey graham he might want focus his attention on getting control on federal spending in washington. but look. right now what ...

Here it is. look at this picture. the sea of red. union protesters in the rotunda in madison, wisconsin, over the move by governor walker to take on the unions in this battle. this is how the "new york times" reported it on saturday. framed the issue. the images from wisconsin with its protests, shutdown of some public services, and missing democratic senators who fled the state to block a vote, evoked the middle east more than the midwest. the parallels raise the inevitable question. is wisconsin the tunisia of collective bargaining rights. governor granholm, what is at stake here? >> i don't...

Where wisconsin unions said if you elect this guy scott walker he's going to reform or limit collective bargaining. he was open about what he was going to do about contributions to pensions and retirement, and he told the people of wisconsin i'm going to change collective bargaining because it impedes progress when it comes to education, it's too hard to fire anybody, it's too complicated, and i'm going to change that system. so in a democracy, when you run on something you do have an obligation to fulfill your promise. he didn't take anybody by surprise. he's doing exactly what he said. there...

It is about politics. it is about who wins the next election and the elections after that. that's what's going on right now in wisconsin. this is about the survival of the democratic party. there are parts of the story that actually don't make any sense unless you understand that. one thing that doesn't make sense, wisconsin's republican governor, this guy scott walker has proposed essentially dismantling all the unions for everybody who works for the government, right, that's what this is all about, proposed dismantling the unions for people who work for the government except for cops and fir...