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And have fun. when members would have issues like mental health crisis, o.g. and other members would help him out. he did see himself as the leader of the group and he wanted us to be super soldiers, informed, fit with god, well-armed, stuff like that. >> the teen described the small group as his online family, and said unlike edward snowden or chelsea manning, he was not a whistleblower, just a guy showing off for some impressionable kids locked down during covid. more recently they met in a room called bear versus pig, a reference to the two sides in the war in ukraine, when news of the leak...

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You can say whatever you want. but this is what it really is. and i think dr. k was exactly on the point where he said fine, all of the diplomatic gymnastic of the obama era is over. the united states will say what it means and mean what it says. >> bill: thank you, sir. 10 minutes past the hour. the way they led the press conference yesterday. putin had met with tillerson for two hours. two hours is not insignificant and i had the sense they were trying to take the temperature down a little bit as soon as i heard that yesterday. we shall see. >> shannon: lavrov, they get together to say hello...

>> so, kind of a mixed message? >> you think? [ laughter ] >> look, i think -- i think -- i think the problem is she comes across as so poll-tested. the contrast with biden this week was lethal. you had a guy showing raw emotion and opening up his heart and his sorrow to the country. as somebody who lost a brother and saw my parents go through this, i have to tell you this was not partisan. i was sobbing into a pillow. on the other hand you've got a hillary clinton making a really forced attempt at learning how to name it and show humor on the "ellen" show. it's not a good contrast. they seem ...

Fighting for progressive values. i get accused of being moderate and centered. i plead guilty. >> so kind of a mixed message? >> you think some i think the problem is she comes across as so cold. the contrast with biden is you have a guy showing raw emotion and opening up his heart and sorrow as someone who lost a brother, my parents went through this. this was not partisan. i was sobbing into a pillow. on the other hand you have a hillary clinton making a really forced attempt at learning how to nene. it is not a good contrast. they seem not to understand that authenticity and respondy inity ...