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Because as we've seen during the primaries, once he gets off that control, anything can happen. and he can actually speak the truth but then have to walk it back a couple days later. >> he stands by what he says, whatever it was. so that's the important point. >> what did you say? you're talking about cookies now? >> he said he could start talking about cookies if you let the guy talk. that's the thing. i think people react to the fact he comes across as stiff and awkward because he comes across as stiff and awkward and when he's allowed to cut loose, it almost never works. remember who let th...

>> president is a nice day. >> i think he is a nice person. >> he is a nice guy. until will does that remind you of this? i have to tell you he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared as president of the united states. >>neil: now, we know how senator john mccain did against then senator oh barack obama and the reason why my guest says romney needs to drop the nice guy talk. you have been getting buzz for the comments. and i wanted to see if you could clarify them. are you saying the president is not a nice guy? >>guest: i judge him by his record and if romney is goin...

Handling the case. knowing who they were dealing with would help determine how to handle him. >> when you think of strategies -- and that's why i love cold cases -- you're only limited by your imagination, your creativity and ethically what you're allowed to do. so when you're figuring out, okay, my goal is to have this guy talk to somebody, what's the best way to do it? >> if you're talking to someone who maybe is not very educated, you talk to them in a specific way. but arturo gutierrez was a seemingly normal family man with a job. he was an intelligent man. he was a good-looking man, a sus...

The pedophiles just blow me away every time i hear them. after listening to that, i was amazed by how he was able to operate at state under joe paterno for 15 years and be able to have all access to the penn state locker room and just listening to the guy talk. >> let me play a clip of what he had to say. san dusky and how he described his interaction with these children. let's play it. >> in retrospect i shouldn't have showered with those kids. >> that's it? >> that's what hits me the most. >> that's what hits him the most. he shouldn't have showered with the kids. the coach who abused you, d...

You're allowed to do. when you're figuring out, my goal is to have this guy talk to somebody, what's the best way to do it? >> if you're talking to someone who is not very educated, you talk to them in a specific way, but arturo gutierrez was a seemingly normal, family man with a job. he was an intelligent man and a seemingly good-looking man and a suspect who thought of himself as a laids man. >> and so they hatched a plan inspired by an old tv show about two unconventional detectives, and we thought we were going to be ditsy blond investigators and that was the impression that we wanted to g...