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Makes this guy tick, so to speak, differently than other people. >> dana: tell me about the van. the pictures of the van before the fbi covered it. this is evidence and that's why they needed to preserve it? >> yeah. they're not protecting his car from pigeons or rain. just like his house or anywhere else he might be affiliated with, they're taking that car. they'll do a very careful methodical search. not just to pull articles off the windows, but to see what else is in there, including trace evidence. there's hours of investigation going on with just that van by itself. >> dana: you worked a...

The investigators have to dig deep and figuring out what his motivation was, what caused him to do what he did. >> shepard: we know he's a millionaire real estate investor. he gambled a lot. if he blew all of his money gambling they would know that by now, wouldn't they? >> and they should. that's what the investigation will go. it will go into his financial background, goes into anybody he contacted. they need to go back to the first wife, the second wife, people he worked with. he seemed to have various different jobs, all good jobs, but different agencies and different jobs. they should go ...

Political leanings. maybe this can change. it has been just 24 hours. give me a sense, 40 guns. his brother said only he had a couple handguns, maybe a long rifle. does only 40 guns, is that a red flag. >> i don't know about a red flag, but it seems to be excessive. the amount of gun that is this guy had. not only that, he also had a bullet resistant vest they found and the fertilizer. that was used in oklahoma city. his plan could have been worse than what we saw. it's something they need to figure out what made this guy tick and what his intentions were. maybe he wrote something down somewhe...

It was a weapon from afghanistan. so the sheriff confirmed there were multiple rifles. but he also had extended magazines. an automatic weapon typically has a 20 or 30-round magazine. and he had additional rifles cache, just fired one until it emptied or the barrel got hot, and continued to shoot in the biomass. >> what can you tell about the killer? again, 64 years old. multiple guns. knew enough to choose that room from the 32nd floor because it looked out over this mass of thousands of people. >> it looks like extensive planning. there going to be evidence of that. i think they will find it...

Pretty shocked rory played with golf. he was injured he had a perfect excuse to dodge it. massive error of judgment. steve: ever wondered what makes president trump tick? turns out he laid it out in his first book "the art of the deal." here former assistant to president george w. bush a guy who used to work inside the white house brad blakeman. when people say brad, you worked in white houses, what makes this guy tick, you actually put your thinking cap on and drew this allusion, didn't you? >> i did. in 1989, president trump gave me his book. i read it at the time. as is he running for presi...